de Rouen, Richard 1a 1b

Nom de naissance de Rouen, Richard
ID Gramps I60868
Genre masculin

Familles

    Famille de de Rouen, Richard [F04262]
  Enfants
  1. d'Amiens, Richard [I45089]

Anecdote

Settipani suggests[173] a speculative descent of the kings of Provence (family of Boson King [of Provence]) from Comte Hieronymus, illegitimate son of Charles "Martel". The trail starts with a reference by the late 10th century historian Richer who states that "Karolus Constantinus, Viennæ civitatis princeps" (son of Emperor Louis III – see the document PROVENCE) was "ex regio quidem genere natus" but "concubinali stemmate usque ad tritavum"[174]. Settipani interprets the text as applying to the ancestor in the direct male line, and suggests that the chronology supports the "tritavus" being Comte Hieronymus. He bases the next two generations solely on similarity of names and geographic proximity of the counties referred to, as follows:
Generation 1: RICHARD, Comte de Rouen in 787, and provisor of the royal domains in 795[175], possible son of Comte Hieronymus & [his second wife Ercheswinda].
Generation 2: RICHARD Comte d'Amiens (-after 801). same person as…? RICHARD (-after 796). "Carolus…rex Francorum et Langobardorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Denis by charter dated 16 Dec 781 which names "fidelibus…Richardo comite, Gunthardo comite, Theutbaldo comite, Griphone, Geroldo, Nortboldo, Winegiso, Walberto, Gisloldo, Aroino, Theutboldo, Constabili et Waraldo comite palatii nostri"[176]. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Willebertus…Rotomagæ postea urbis archiepiscopum et Richardum comitem" as royal missi in 796[177].
Generation 3: RICHARD (-before 12 Nov 842), and his brother Buvinus [Bouvin] (-[863/69]), the latter being the father of Boson named King in Provence in 879.
This is an interesting speculation which is worth noting, but there seem to be many other possibilities to explain the text and Settipani cites little documentary evidence in support.

Attributs

Type Valeur Notes Sources
_UID CB96E7D96EB64299BEA1A054C0BDAB9F3AF7
 

Arbre généalogique

    1. de Rouen, Richard
        1. d'Amiens, Richard [I45089]

Références des sources

  1. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [S00008]
      • Page: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PROVENCE.htm#RichardAmiens801B
      • Niveau de confiance: Très haut
      • Page: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc169575357
      • Niveau de confiance: Très haut