Two brothers, whose parents have not yet been identified:
1. GUILLAUME . The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes records that Guillaume was the brother of Gerard Comte d'Auvergne when it states that "Ramnulfum filium Girardi comitis Arvernis, nepotem Willelmi fratris Girardi" was installed as Comte de Poitou after "Emeno…comes Pictavinus" was expelled[220]. No other indication has yet been found of the identity of this Guillaume.
2. GERARD (-killed in battle Fontenoy 25 Jun 841). Comte d'Auvergne. The Vita Hludowici Imperatoris names "Ebroinus…Pictavensis episcopo Flateram…Reginardus comes, Gerardus itidem comes et gener quondam Pippini regis [et] Ratharius…comes Pippini gener" [in 839][221]. m firstly ---. The name of Gerard's first wife has not been identified in the primary sources so far consulted. m secondly --- [of Aquitaine], daughter of PEPIN I King of Aquitaine [Carolingian] & his wife Ringardis. Her affiliation is indicated by the Vita Hludovici which names "Gerardus…comes et gener quondam Pippini necnon Ratherius similiter comes Pippini gener"[222]. If this is correct, the two counts were much older than their wives. Some authors have therefore suggested that "brothers-in-law" is a more accurate translation of generes and that the two counts were therefore married to two daughters of Emperor Louis I[223]. Settipani[224] argues that this is incompatible with the context in which the term is used in the Vita. Comte Gérard & his first wife had three children