Mon arbre généalogique

GILBERT, son of --- . Avocat de Saint-Valéry. Orderic Vitalis records that “Gulbertus cognomento advocatus de Sancto Gualerico” married “filiam Ricardi ducis”[1757].

m PAPIA, illegitimate daughter of RICHARD I Comte [de Normandie] & his mistress ---. Guillaume of Jumièges records that Richard had two daughters “ex concubinis”, but does not name them[1758]. It is not certain that Papia, wife of Gilbert de Saint-Valéry, was the daughter of Richard I. Orderic Vitalis records that “Gulbertus cognomento advocatus de Sancto Gualerico” married “filiam Ricardi ducis”[1759]. It is not clear from this text to which duke Richard he refers, but in a later passage the same source confirms her name Papia daughter of "Ricardi iunioris ducis Normannorum" (which does suggest that he too is referring to Duke Richard III)[1760]. Some authors have taken this to refer to Duke Richard III, presumably inspired by Robert de Torigny who names "Papiam uxorem Walteri de Sanct Walerico et Aeliz uxorem Ranulfi vicecomitis de Baioeis" as the two daughters of Duke Richard III[1761]. This is, however, chronologically impossible assuming that it is correct, as asserted by Orderic Vitalis[1762], that Papia's grandson, Richard de Heugleville, helped Guillaume II Duke of Normandy in the 1054 rebellion when he was already old enough for Geoffroy de Neufmarché to be his son-in-law. Neither of the passages in Orderic Vitalis names Papia's mother. It is tempting to imagine that she was Duke Richard II's second wife of the same name. However, it is also chronologically inconsistent with the 1054 references to Papia's grandson for Papia to have been the daughter of duke Richard II Assuming that all this speculation is correct, Papia must have been born in the early years of the 11th century and therefore she must have been the daughter of Richard I.

Gilbert & his wife had one child