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THIBAUT [Tetbald] [I] "l'Ancien", son of --- (-[944], bur Tours Saint-Martin). [Comte de Chartres: Guillaume de Jumièges describes how "le comte Thibaut" bought the town of Chartres from Hasting the Viking[23]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Hastingo" sold "civitate Carnoto" to "Turonensi comiti Theobaldo" in 904[24]. The accuracy of these two reports is uncertain as it is unclear whether Hasting ever was comte de Chartres.] Vicomte de Tours: "Domni Fulconis Andecavorum comitis, Tedbaldi Turonorum vicecomitis" subscribed the charter dated 30 Oct 909 under which the testamentary executors of "domniGauzuini" donatedproperty to Saint-Martin de Tours[25]. "…Tetbaldi vicecomitis…" subscribed the charter of "Hugo rector abbatiæ sancti Martini" relating to Tours Saint-Martin dated 931[26]. The identity of the husband of Richilde, and father of Thibaut [II] and Richard, is brought together by the charter dated to [944] under which "le comte Thibault père de Thibault" relinquished rights relating to "les terres de Vancé, de Joué, de Martigny et de Berthenay" to Tours Saint-Martin and paid for his future burial in the abbey[27]. m firstly ---. The primary source which confirms this first marriage has not yet been identified. It is likely that the only indication is provided by the charter, dated to [980], under which "Ledgardis comitissa necnon Hugo episcopus et filius meus et item filius meus Odo comes" donated property to Saint-Martin de Tours, for the souls of "Theobaldi comitis quondam senioris mei…Richildis quondam sanctimonialis, eiusque filii Richardi episcopi" (referring to "dicti comitis et fratris sui Theobaldi", in relation to Bishop Richard)[28]. This charter confirms that Richildis was the mother of Richard and that Richard was the brother of Thibaut [II]. However, the absence of a phrase in the text such as "matris sui" linking "Richildis" to "Theobaldi comitis" suggests that she was not his mother and that therefore the brothers were born from different marriages of the same father. m secondly RICHILDIS, daughter of ---. Richildis is named as second wife of Thibaut in Europäische Stammtafeln[29] but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. The charter, dated to [980], under which "Ledgardis comitissa necnon Hugo episcopus et filius meus et item filius meus Odo comes" donated property to Saint-Martin de Tours, for the souls of "Theobaldi comitis quondam senioris mei…Richildis quondam sanctimonialis, eiusque filii Richardi episcopi" (referring to "dicti comitis et fratris sui Theobaldi", in relation to Bishop Richard)[30] confirms that Richildis was the mother of Richard and that Richard was the brother of Thibaut. However, it provides no indication of the name of their father and therefore of Richildis´s husband. Comte Thibaut & his [first] wife had one child

Thibaud dit l'Ancien (né en 890 - mort en 943), vicomte de Blois en 906, vicomte de Tours en 908, puis comte de Tours et comte de Blois vers 940.

Il serait de haute extraction franco-bourguignonne et arrivé sur les bords de la Loire inférieure au début du Xe siècle. Il est le fondateur de la dynastie des Thibaldiens.

Il épousa Richilde de Bourges, connue aussi sous le nom de Richilde du Maine (v.890-† ap.942), fille de Hugues (v.862-892), comte de Bourges et de Rothilde (v.871-v.928), fille de Charles le Chauve et de Richilde d'Ardennes. Veuve d'Hugues de Bourges, Rothilde épousa en secondes noces Roger, comte du Maine.

Richilde de Bourges eut pour sœur Rohaut, la première épouse d'Hugues le Grand.

Avec Richilde, Thibaud eut trois enfants :

* Thibaud le Tricheur qui lui succéda dans ses
* Richard (†969), archevêque de Bourges
* une fille peut-être prénommée Adélaïde, mariée en premières noces au duc Alain Barbetorte de Bretagne, en secondes noces au comte Foulque II le Bon d'Anjou, mort en 958.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thibaud_l%27Ancien

note Philippe: trop d'incertitude sur l'identité de la femme de Thinaut l'Ancien