d'Orléans, Gebhard 1a

Nom de naissance d'Orléans, Gebhard
ID Gramps I08170
Genre masculin

Événements

Événement Date Lieu Description Notes Sources
Décès après 879    
 

Parents

Relation avec la souche Nom Relation dans la famille (si différent de la naissance)
Père d'Orléans, Eudes [I03432]
Mère , Engeltrudis [I03405]
    La sœur (germaine)     d'Orléans, Ermentrude [I03431]
         d'Orléans, Gebhard [I08170]

Familles

    Famille de d'Orléans, Gebhard [F03561]
  Enfants
  1. de Souabe, Udo [I08169]

Anecdote

[GEBHARD (-after 879). Jackman suggests that Gebhard (ancestor of the Konradiner) was the brother of Ermentrude, first wife Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks, therefore the son of Eudes Comte d'Orléans[141]. However, this appears chronologically dubious if Gebhard is identified with "Gebehardus"who founded Kloster Kettenbach, as recorded inthe charter of "Ludowicus…rex" dated 31 Mar [845] in which the king donated land in "in pago Logonenseiuxta fluvium Arda" to the monastery[142], unless he was born from an earlier marriage of his father. Nevertheless, an interesting possible corroboration for Gebhard's relationship with this family is provided by the Annales Bertiniani which record that "Adalardo Yrmintrudis reginæ avunculo" was "propinquo" of the brothers Udo (ancestor of the Franconian Konradiner family), Berengar and Waldo who were expelled from Germany in 865[143], and in a later passage that "Adalardo…et suis propinquis Hugonis et Berengario" fought the Vikings in 865[144]. "Adalardo" was Adalhard [III], maternal uncle of Gebhard assuming the relationship is as shown here, and the brothers Udo, Berengar and Waldo were Gebhard's sons. m --- [im Nordgau], sister of Graf ERNST, daughter of ---. The relationship between the sons of Gebhard and Graf Ernst is clarified by the Annales Bertiniani which record that "nepotes ipsius [Ernestus]" were expelled from the kingdom in 861[145]. If the suggestion by Jackman concerning Gebhard's affiliation is correct, Gebhard would have been the brother-in-law not brother of Ernest, married to the latter's sister.]

Attributs

Type Valeur Notes Sources
_UID 53E220146284408F9AC94633E129B4DC9432
 

Arbre généalogique

  1. d'Orléans, Eudes [I03432]
    1. , Engeltrudis [I03405]
      1. d'Orléans, Ermentrude [I03431]
      2. d'Orléans, Gebhard
          1. de Souabe, Udo [I08169]

Ascendants

Références des sources

  1. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [S00008]
      • Page: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc371156045
      • Niveau de confiance: Très haut