RENAUD [II] de Nevers (-killed 5 Aug 1089). The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum names "Guillelmum et Renaldum" as the two sons of "Guillelmus…I", stating that Renaud possessed "Malliacum et Huben, duo nobilia castra"[2447]. Although the wording of this passage suggests that Guillaume was the older son, the charter dated 4 Mar 1063 subscribed by "filii mei Raginaldi, Wilelmi, Rotberti" after "Wilelmus comes"[2448] is more likely to show the correct order of birth of the brothers. He and his brothers are named in their father's 1083 charter[2449]. The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records that "Rainaldus Willelmi comitis filius" was killed 5 Aug[2450].m firstly ([divorced) [as her first husband,] [ITA Raymonde] de Lyon, daughter of ARTAUD [II] Comte de Lyon et de Forez & his wife Raymonde ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married firstly "filiam unicam [Artaldi] comitis Foratensis"[2451]. She married secondly (before 1085) Guigues Raymond d'Albon. La Mure´s Histoire des Comtes de Forez states that "Guy-Raymond de Viennois" married "Ide-Raymonde de Forez, fille d´Artaud V…comte de Lyon et de Forez et d´Ide son épouse" and refers to the couple´s donation of "quelques terres situées au pays de Forez" to Cluny dated 1085, adding that the property in question was Ita´s dowry[2452]. La Mure does not quote the charter in question nor provide a precise source reference, apart from referring to Guichenon´s Histoire de Savoie. This charter has not been found in the compilation of Cluny charters edited by Bernard and Bruel so presumably has since disappeared. It is not now therefore possible to state whether the charter explicitly confirms Ita Raymonde´s affiliation, although on this point there appears no reason to doubt that La Mure had the document available when he was writing as his description of its contents is precise. Two difficulties remain. The first difficulty is the date of the supposed Cluny charter, as at that time Guigues would still have been a child (his estimated birth date appears robust).The second difficulty is that Ita must have been considerably older than her second husband, assuming that she was the same daughter who had previously married Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers, as she had a daughter by her first marriage when Guigues Raymond must still have been an infant. One possibility is that Artaud [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon had two daughters, despite the Origine et Historia asserting that Comte Renaud´s wife was "filiam unicam". It should be noted that no source has been identified which confirms that Guigues´s wife had previously been the wife of Comte Renaud. If there was only one daughter, she must have been divorced from her first husband, although no source has been found which confirms that this is correct. It should be noted that La Mure asserts that Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers was Ita´s second husband, married after the death of Guigues, but this appears difficult to reconcile with the chronology of the different families with which she was connected. m secondly [as her second husband,] AGNES de Baugency, [widow of ROBERT de Villeneuil,] daughter of LANCELIN [II] Seigneur de Baugency & his wife ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married secondly "Idam…filiam Lancelini de Balgentiaco"[2453]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1134 under which "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis, qui fuit natus de filia Lancelini de Baugenciaco" renounced practices which prejudiced the abbey of Saint-Michel[2454]. Her first marriage is indicated by the charter dated Feb 1069 under which "Rotbertus de Villenolio gener Lancelini" donated property, naming "uxorem suam Agnes…et fratrem suum Willelmum", subscribed by "Lancelinus de Balgentiaco, Rodulfus filius eius"[2455]. Comte Renaud [I] & his first wife had one child