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JACQUES de Chacenay, son of ANSERIC [II] Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Humbeline [de Troyes] (-15 Jun [1152/58]). "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 22 Feb 1119[585]. Seigneur de Chacenay. "Hubelina domena de Chacenay uxor Anserici defuncto" made donations to "fratribus de Ripatorio" with the consent of "Jacobo filio eius" by charter dated 1137, subscribed by "Bernardus abbas Clerævallis, Odo filius Josleni"[586]. "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai" with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee" made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[587]. The foundation charter of the abbey of Mores, undated but dated to 1152, records the donations of "Ansericus de Chacennaico…uxore sua Hubelina et filio suo Jacobo" and "Jacobus de Chacennaio…uxore sua Agnete"[588].

m (before 1146) as her first husband, AGNES [de Brienne, daughter of GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne[ & his wife [Humbeline de Baudément] ([1122/25]-after 1191). "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai", with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee", made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[589]. The parentage of the wife of Jacques Seigneur de Chacenay is suggested by this document dated 1146. It is also indicated by the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names her supposed brother "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witnessed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[590]. One of the interpretations of this document is that "Erardus nepos eius [=of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne] de Chacenaio" was the nephew of Comte Erard because he was the son of his sister. Another possible interpretation of the 1174 document, as explained in more detail in the chapter dealing with the comtes de Brienne, is that Erard de Chacenay was "nepos" of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne because of a relationship through the latter´s mother, Humbeline de Baudément, wife of Gauthier [II] Comte de Brienne. In that case, Agnes must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded first marriage of her father. However, this alternative interpretation does not satisfactorily explain the charter dated 1146 nor the entry of the name "Erard" into the Chacenay family after Agnes´s marriage, which certainly suggests that Agnes belonged to the family of the comtes de Brienne. If Agnes´s parentage is correct as shown in the present document, she must have been one of her parents´ oldest children. "Agnes domina de Chacennaio…filiis suis Thoma et Ayrardo" made donations to the abbey of Mores by charter dated 1158, confirmed by "Henricus…Trecensis episcopus"[591]. She married secondly (after 1158) Hugues de Vandeuvre. Her second marriage is indicated by her testament "Agnes…domina Cacenaii", dated to [1191] and made "coram…filiarum mearum M[argareta] domina Chanlotis et H. domina de Durnai", under which the testator bequeathed land "apud Lusigniacum et apud Montem Susanum", previously held by "Jacobus filius domini Erardi Cacensi", to "filie mee M[argarete] domine Chanlotis", and property "apud Taneileres" to "filie domini H[ugonis] Vendopere"[592]. "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam" by charter dated to [1179/83], witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…Henricus de Cachennais et filius eius Johannes"[593]. She maybe married thirdly Jean ---. Her third marriage is suggested by the charter dated to [1179/83] under which "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam", witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…"[594]. It is clear that "Jean seigneur de Chacenay" could not have been one of Agnes´s children by her first marriage. One possible explanation of the charter is therefore that he was Agnes´s third husband, enjoying the title by right of his wife.

Jacques & his wife had [three] children

JACQUES de Chacenay, son of ANSERIC [II] Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Humbeline [de Troyes] (-15 Jun [1152/58]). "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme by charter dated 22 Feb 1119[842]. Seigneur de Chacenay. "Hubelina domena de Chacenay uxor Anserici defuncto" made donations to "fratribus de Ripatorio" with the consent of "Jacobo filio eius" by charter dated 1137, subscribed by "Bernardus abbas Clerævallis, Odo filius Josleni"[843]. "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai" with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee" made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[844]. The foundation charter of the abbey of Mores, undated but dated to 1152, records the donations of "Ansericus de Chacennaico…uxore sua Hubelina et filio suo Jacobo" and "Jacobus de Chacennaio…uxore sua Agnete"[845].

m (before 1146) as her first husband, AGNES [de Brienne, daughter of GAUTHIER [II] Comte de Brienne[ & his wife [Humbeline de Baudément] ([1122/25]-after 1191). "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai", with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee", made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[846]. The parentage of the wife of Jacques Seigneur de Chacenay is suggested by this document dated 1146. It is also indicated by the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names her supposed brother "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witnessed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[847]. One of the interpretations of this document is that "Erardus nepos eius [=of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne] de Chacenaio" was the nephew of Comte Erard because he was the son of his sister. Another possible interpretation of the 1174 document, as explained in more detail in the chapter dealing with the comtes de Brienne, is that Erard de Chacenay was "nepos" of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne because of a relationship through the latter’s mother, Humbeline de Baudément, wife of Gauthier [II] Comte de Brienne. In that case, Agnes must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded first marriage of her father. However, this alternative interpretation does not satisfactorily explain the charter dated 1146 nor the entry of the name "Erard" into the Chacenay family after Agnes’s marriage, which certainly suggests that Agnes belonged to the family of the comtes de Brienne. If Agnes’s parentage is correct as shown in the present document, she must have been one of her parents’ oldest children. "Agnes domina de Chacennaio…filiis suis Thoma et Ayrardo" made donations to the abbey of Mores by charter dated 1158, confirmed by "Henricus…Trecensis episcopus"[848]. She married secondly (after 1158) Hugues de Vandeuvre. Her second marriage is indicated by her testament "Agnes…domina Cacenaii", dated to [1191] and made "coram…filiarum mearum M[argareta] domina Chanlotis et H. domina de Durnai", under which the testator bequeathed land "apud Lusigniacum et apud Montem Susanum", previously held by "Jacobus filius domini Erardi Cacensi", to "filie mee M[argarete] domine Chanlotis", and property "apud Taneileres" to "filie domini H[ugonis] Vendopere"[849]. "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam" by charter dated to [1179/83], witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…Henricus de Cachennais et filius eius Johannes"[850]. She maybe married thirdly Jean ---. Her third marriage is suggested by the charter dated to [1179/83] under which "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam", witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…"[851]. It is clear that "Jean seigneur de Chacenay" could not have been one of Agnes’s children by her first marriage. One possible explanation of the charter is therefore that he was Agnes’s third husband, enjoying the title by right of his wife.

Jacques & his wife had [three] children