de Brienne, Gauthier
Nom de naissance | de Brienne, Gauthier 1a |
ID Gramps | I60132 |
Genre | masculin |
Événements
Événement | Date | Lieu | Description | Notes | Sources |
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Décès | avant 1161 |
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Parents
Relation avec la souche | Nom | Relation dans la famille (si différent de la naissance) |
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Père | de Brienne, Erard [I44683] | |
Mère | de Ramerupt, Alix [I59264] | |
de Brienne, Gauthier [I60132] | ||
La sœur (germaine) | de Brienne, Félicité [I41416] |
Familles
  |   | Famille de de Brienne, Gauthier et de Baudément, Humbeline [F08309] |
Mariés | Femme | de Baudément, Humbeline [I57053] |
Enfants |
Anecdote
GAUTHIER [II] de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161). "Airardus Breonensis comes…et comitem Barrensem Milonem fratrem suum" are named in a charter dated [1125 or before], in which "Walterii nepotis sui filii Airardi defuncti comitis" is named, clarifying that his father was then deceased[347]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Brenensem Galterum et sororem eius Felicitatem" as children of "Erardus…comes Brenensis" & his wife[348]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Galterum comitem eiusdem loci et sororem eius nomine Felicitatem" as children of "Aerardo comiti Briennensi" & his wife, specifying that "Galterus comes genuit Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis"[349]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Brienne. Seigneur de Ramerupt. He founded the abbey of Bassefontaine with his mother in 1143[350]. "Walterus Brenensis comes" granted "decimam reddituum suorum de Brena Castello" to the abbey of Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 22 Jan 1143, subscribed by "Airardi filii sui, Andree filii sui, Marie filie sue…Johannis de Brena clerici…Guidonis fratris comitis"[351]. He took part in the Second Crusade in 1147[352].
[m firstly ---. This possible first marriage is indicated only by one possible interpretation of the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witnessed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[353]. As discussed more fully below under Comte Gauthier [II]´s wife Humbeline, this document could mean that Erard de Chacenay was related to Erard [II] Comte de Brienne through Humbeline´s possible first marriage. If that is correct, Comte Gauthier´s daughter Agnes, married to Jacques de Chacenay, must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage of her father. As noted below, the more likely interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard [II] because he was the son of the latter´s sister.]
m [firstly/secondly] ([repudiated before 1147]) HUMBELINE de Baudémont, daughter of ANDRE de Baudémont Seneschal de Champagne & his wife Agnes --- (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[354]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[355]. [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay. This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by "Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[356]. What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[357]. Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time. However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document. Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline´s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric´s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147. Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter´s sister. As discussed in more detail below, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay. If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.] "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[358]. "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[359]. Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband. Gauthier must therefore have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).
m [secondly/thirdly] (before 1147) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "G comes Brene" donated property to "ecclesie Sancte Marie de Rameruco" with the consent of "uxoris Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by charter dated 1147[360]. "Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150][361].
Comte Gauthier [II] & his [first/second] wife had nine children [this document assumes that Humbeline was the mother of all of Gauthier´s children, in line with the most natural interpretation of the various charters which are quoted here. If Humbeline was the same person as the widow of Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay, several of the older children shown here must have been born from Gauthier´s first marriage
Attributs
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_UID | DF881A1B263244339C041C25794DF8848EB0 |
Arbre généalogique
Références des sources
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Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
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