de Nesle, Jean 1a

Nom de naissance de Nesle, Jean
ID Gramps I54871
Genre masculin
Âge au décès moins de 66 ans, 1 mois

Événements

Événement Date Lieu Description Notes Sources
Naissance après 1206    
 
Décès avant 0/2/1272    
 

Parents

Relation avec la souche Nom Relation dans la famille (si différent de la naissance)
Père de Nesle, Raoul [I54422]
Mère de Joinville, Yolande [I57856]
         de Nesle, Jean [I54871]
    Le frère (germain)     de Nesle, Raoul [I42570]

Familles

    Famille de de Nesle, Jean et de Chimay, Marie [F16486]
Mariés Femme de Chimay, Marie [I45253]
   
Événement Date Lieu Description Notes Sources
Mariage avant 0/5/1234    
 
  Enfants
  1. de Nesle, Adela [I39015]

Anecdote

JEAN [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons & his second wife Yolande --- (after 1206-[Apr 1270/Feb 1272). "Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[4070]. It is assumed that the 1 Nov 1213 document is misdated, considering Jean’s birth date. "Johannes Suessionensis miles, primogenitus comitis Suessionensis, dominus de Turno et Cisinaco" and "Maria uxor ipsius Johannis" noted donations to the Teutonic knights by charter dated May 1234[4071]. He succeeded his father in 1235 as Comte de Soissons. Comte de Chartres, Seigneur d'Amboise. "Alienordis filia Ioannis comitis Suessionensis relicta defuncti Reginaldi quondam vicecomitis Thoarcii" confirmed the transfer of “custodiam castri de Thefauges” to “Savaricus vicecomes Thoarc. frater quondam dicti Reginaldi”, naming as guarantors “patrem meum dominum Ioannem comitem Suessionensem, dominum Matheum de Montemorenciaco, Radulphum de Suessione patruum meum et Guillelmum vicecomitem Meledunensem milites”, by charter dated Feb 1269[4072].

m firstly (before May 1234) MARIE de Chimay, daughter of ROGER de Chimay & his wife Agnes --- (-after 20 Mar 1241). "Johannes Suessionensis miles, primogenitus comitis Suessionensis, dominus de Turno et Cisinaco" and "Maria uxor ipsius Johannis" noted donations to the Teutonic knights by charter dated May 1234[4073].

m secondly as her second husband, MATHILDE d'Amboise, widow of RICHARD [II] Vicomte de Beaumont-sur-Sarthe, daughter of SULPICE [III] Seigneur d'Amboise & his wife Isabelle de Blois Ctss de Chartres (-12 May 1256). Ctss de Chartres, Dame d'Amboise 1246.

Comte Jean [II] & his first wife had six children

Arbre généalogique

  1. de Nesle, Raoul [I54422]
    1. de Joinville, Yolande [I57856]
      1. de Nesle, Jean
        1. de Chimay, Marie [I45253]
          1. de Nesle, Adela [I39015]
      2. de Nesle, Raoul [I42570]

Ascendants

Références des sources

  1. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy [S00008]
      • Page: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc359778174
      • Niveau de confiance: Très haut